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EASTERN

No.

58

IAL OFFICE

32

14370

Roof 1 DEC 06

Gaberament House.

L November 19 ob

"Enatos we /

Zemuns LIS to 1XVI

*

739719

My Lord

In continuation of my Secret Despatch of the 21 September 1906 on the subject of negotiations for the completion of a loan agreement and of a working agreement in connection with the proposed Canton Kowloon Railway, I have the honour to enclose for your information and consideration a precis of further correspondence with Your Lordship and Mr. Fraser at Peking on this matter.

2. I enclose a copy of Sir John Jordan's despatch of the 13 October, referred to in his and my telegrams of the 25th (LXII) & (LXIII). This dispatch was received on the 26th instant. Simultaneously, with Sir John Jordan's telegraphic summary (LXIV) of the extent to which the conditions on which I had laid stress in my telegrams of 18 August (L) & (LV) had been accepted. As telegraphed to Your Lordship on the 27th (LXV), I looked upon the Embodiment of Article 15 & 46 (in draft sense from Iching of August 17 as provided in Canton as important. My reason for this view is given in paragraph 3 of my despatch of the 25 September. Otherwise, I could not consider the terms of the loan draft divisible if affecting this Colony satisfactory and I feared that it would be difficult to obtain the elimination from Article 18 of the reference to "the agreements regarding the junction and working of interlocking railways in other countries", it seemed to me.

• Fleshing out 61 a vast number of such agreements differing in their provisions, the reference to them would give rise to difficulties and might endanger the settlement of the Canton Kowloon Railway working agreement. Sir John Jordan in reply on August 20 (LXIII) mentioned that my comments on the agreement as drafted, in the sense of his indent bargain by modification for which I had asked. I hesitate to do this course remaining a reply to my telegram to Your Lordship of the 27th (in the face of the instructions contained in the final paragraph of 19th Lytton's confidential despatch of the 17 February 1905) and is being complied again - for listeneklous.

On the 30th (XI), I having received the news by the mail of the 31st the date fixed for the final meeting at which the draft agreement was to be agreed, I decided to concur in the draft agreement (LXIII) while again expressing a hope that it might be found possible to modify Article 18 in the manner I had suggested. Your Lordship's telegram received on the 31st (XI) justified my having taken on myself to do this. To the telegram I sent yesterday (LXV) enquiring if the agreement has been signed, I have today heard (LXVI) that this had not yet been done but that the alteration of Article 18 has been accepted.

3. Your Lordship will doubtless have received from the Foreign Office a copy of Sir Jordan's despatch No. 590 of August 29, 1906, enclosing the minutes of the 4th meeting held at Peking on the subject of the loan agreement. The minutes of the 6th and final meeting are with this despatch.

4. I take this opportunity of acknowledging Your Lordship's Secret Despatch of the 25 September enclosing a copy of a telegram from Mr. Carnegie to Sir Edward Grey dated August 24 of that month with regard to the first three of these meetings.

I have the honour to be,

My Lord,

Your Lordship's most obedient

humble servant

The Right Honourable

The Earl of Elgin

K.G.

12

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TED FOR USE EASTERN No. 58 IAL OFFICE 32 14370 Roof 1 DEC 06 Gaberament House. L November 19 ob "Enatos we / Zemuns LIS to 1XVI * 739719 My Lord In continuation of my Secret Despatch of the 21 September 1906 on the subject of negotiations for the completion of a loan agreement and of a working agreement in connection with the proposed Canton Kowloon Railway, I have the honour to enclose for your information and consideration a precis of further correspondence with Your Lordship and Mr. Fraser at Peking on this matter. 2. I enclose a copy of Sir John Jordan's despatch of the 13 October, referred to in his and my telegrams of the 25th (LXII) & (LXIII). This dispatch was received on the 26th instant. Simultaneously, with Sir John Jordan's telegraphic summary (LXIV) of the extent to which the conditions on which I had laid stress in my telegrams of 18 August (L) & (LV) had been accepted. As telegraphed to Your Lordship on the 27th (LXV), I looked upon the Embodiment of Article 15 & 46 (in draft sense from Iching of August 17 as provided in Canton as important. My reason for this view is given in paragraph 3 of my despatch of the 25 September. Otherwise, I could not consider the terms of the loan draft divisible if affecting this Colony satisfactory and I feared that it would be difficult to obtain the elimination from Article 18 of the reference to "the agreements regarding the junction and working of interlocking railways in other countries", it seemed to me. Fleshing out 61 a vast number of such agreements differing in their provisions, the reference to them would give rise to difficulties and might endanger the settlement of the Canton Kowloon Railway working agreement. Sir John Jordan in reply on August 20 (LXIII) mentioned that my comments on the agreement as drafted, in the sense of his indent bargain by modification for which I had asked. I hesitate to do this course remaining a reply to my telegram to Your Lordship of the 27th (in the face of the instructions contained in the final paragraph of 19th Lytton's confidential despatch of the 17 February 1905) and is being complied again - for listeneklous. On the 30th (XI), I having received the news by the mail of the 31st the date fixed for the final meeting at which the draft agreement was to be agreed, I decided to concur in the draft agreement (LXIII) while again expressing a hope that it might be found possible to modify Article 18 in the manner I had suggested. Your Lordship's telegram received on the 31st (XI) justified my having taken on myself to do this. To the telegram I sent yesterday (LXV) enquiring if the agreement has been signed, I have today heard (LXVI) that this had not yet been done but that the alteration of Article 18 has been accepted. 3. Your Lordship will doubtless have received from the Foreign Office a copy of Sir Jordan's despatch No. 590 of August 29, 1906, enclosing the minutes of the 4th meeting held at Peking on the subject of the loan agreement. The minutes of the 6th and final meeting are with this despatch. 4. I take this opportunity of acknowledging Your Lordship's Secret Despatch of the 25 September enclosing a copy of a telegram from Mr. Carnegie to Sir Edward Grey dated August 24 of that month with regard to the first three of these meetings. I have the honour to be, My Lord, Your Lordship's most obedient humble servant The Right Honourable The Earl of Elgin K.G. 12 Roof
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1 TED FOR USE EASTERN No. 58 IAL OFFICE ᄒᄒ 32 14370 Roof 1 DEC 06 Gaberament House. L Novcember 19 ob "Enatos we / Zemuns LIS to 1XVI * 739719 My Lord In continuation of my Sceret Despatch of the 21 Sepłembu 1906 on tiu subjut of heq okidious for in completion of a loan agreement and of a jour working apcement in connection witu în prokovò Cautru Koudovavfailiony & has tür housmr to Eucboir for úformalist and tická a parapinass of forthu bebexptric correopoudunu with You Ladolup and A. Huisher at Jekuig Hús matter " 2. Vales Endme a copy of Sir John Jordans disputeh of tu 137&tobu, ufured to in his and my keterams of the 25“ (LVT)« (LXII). This dispatch was reccsold on lu 26a neauty Simultaneously, with Six folin Jordan's kelucyphic summary (!!!) of the extent to which the Coudilious ma which I had laid shes in my telyams of 18′′ Anque5 ( L )+(LV) hæð bren accepts. As telegraphed to Your drðship on the 27th (LTX) I looked lên Embøðirincut as Avhicle 15 46 (n draft suus frou Iching of Anhue 17 as pruilid in doudou as un portant. My reason for this For is given in forrapeple 3 of my despation of an 25 Septembert otherwles & could not couscour the harle of thu Viking duft divably iffuking this Colony Satisfactay and Sprepð HAMunism (5) 389 to any tale obtain the Elimination frou de Article 18 of the referenss to "the agreemento qual in regard to the jundian aw workuis of uiterdak zailways u other counties", it seemed to rul Fleshusák 61 e vast number of such agreements diffung wächs in thun fassicions, thu fuser to them would qıor tist & rudiysdiufdou and Majri An settlement of En Canton Kowlese Railway workug agreement. Siv John/ridan in uply on Au 2014 (133) mpŵ ne kqiue al omet my conuruunit to the agreement is drapbed, in tn Escut of his ind barrigabu bi medification for cohich I had asked. I heaituko to do this coûtes reuinig a reply to my telegram to your dortolup of the 27th the the face of the unstuctions confused in ith ficial pacegraph of 19th Lyon's controndial despatch of the 17 February 1905.) and is bel coraphed again - for listeneklous su tim 30“ (XI), Vd howton haoung received thuoc by the mamuis of ka 31" the date fixed for the fuel muting at which the dust ogument un tebe aquad, I decides ti concur in ([us diquadun (LXIII) while again Expriping a hope this 'it casuid is found posible ti malify Article 18 is thu hannu had sująceká. You droships Alquam traïod ui thu nijis of _Im 31 (XI) justifit my heoung taken on myself to do this. To the telegram I sent Yehuday (LXV) Enquiring if the agreement has been ligued I have today heard (1201) that this had not yet been dous but the the alturalien d siyęuką li Askılı 18 has been acceplante. 3. Your drnship coils doubtles have received from the Foscion offices a copy of Živ' Vowan's dwp No 590 of An 29aSyscuba 1906 Eudosing the muscules of lin 4a mukung hað at Sching on the subject of the Cool agreement. The minides of the 6'26a maturips au with. Einlodau 2. le (this despatch. the 4. take this opportunity of ackumddquig Your Lordships Secret Despatel of the 25 Scpscmber Ecuiquig a copy of a belexam from Wit Carnegic to En Edward Quy dated Auto of that imouths with regard to the first thus of these meshugs, q ham thu houiqui tube My dalk Your ship's most obediend humble verand The Right Hande Non. The Earl of Equi KA. 12 *. Rooomer
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TED FOR USE

EASTERN

No.

58

IAL OFFICE

ᄒᄒ

32

14370

Roof 1 DEC 06

Gaberament House.

L Novcember 19 ob

"Enatos we /

Zemuns LIS to 1XVI

*

739719

My Lord

In continuation of my Sceret Despatch of the 21 Sepłembu 1906 on tiu subjut of heq okidious for in completion of a loan agreement and of a jour working apcement in connection witu în prokovò Cautru Koudovavfailiony & has tür housmr to Eucboir for úformalist and tická a parapinass of forthu bebexptric correopoudunu with You Ladolup and A. Huisher at Jekuig uí Hús matter

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2. Vales Endme a copy of Sir John Jordans disputeh of tu 137&tobu, ufured to in his and my keterams of the 25“ (LVT)« (LXII). This dispatch was reccsold on lu 26a neauty Simultaneously, with Six folin Jordan's kelucyphic summary (!!!) of the extent to which the Coudilious ma which I had laid shes in my telyams of 18′′ Anque5 ( L )+(LV) hæð bren accepts. As telegraphed to Your drðship on the 27th (LTX) I looked où lên Embøðirincut as Avhicle 15 46 (n draft suus frou Iching of Anhue 17 as pruilid in doudou as un portant. My reason for this For is given in forrapeple 3 of my despation of an 25 Septembert otherwles & could not couscour the harle of thu Viking duft divably iffuking this Colony Satisfactay and Sprepð HAMunism (5) 389 to any tale obtain the Elimination frou de Article 18 of the referenss to "the agreemento qual

in regard to the jundian aw workuis of uiterdak zailways u other counties", it seemed to rul

• Fleshusák 61 e vast number of such agreements diffung wächs in thun fassicions, thu fuser to them would qıor tist & rudiysdiufdou and Majri An settlement of En Canton Kowlese Railway workug agreement. Siv John/ridan in uply on Au 2014 (133) mpŵ ne kqiue al omet my conuruunit to the agreement is drapbed, in tn Escut of his ind barrigabu bi medification for cohich I had asked. I heaituko to do this coûtes reuinig a reply to my telegram to your dortolup of the 27th the the face of the unstuctions confused in ith ficial pacegraph of 19th Lyon's controndial despatch of the 17 February 1905.) and is bel coraphed again - for listeneklous

su tim 30“ (XI), Vd howton haoung received thuoc by the mamuis of ka 31" the date fixed for the fuel muting at which the dust ogument un tebe aquad, I decides ti concur in

([us diquadun (LXIII) while again Expriping a hope this 'it casuid is found posible ti malify Article 18 is thu hannu ↓ had sująceká. You droships Alquam traïod ui thu nijis of _Im 31 (XI) justifit my heoung taken on myself to do this. To the telegram I sent

Yehuday (LXV) Enquiring if the agreement has been ligued I have today heard (1201) that this had not yet been dous but the the alturalien d siyęuką li Askılı 18 has been acceplante. 3. Your drnship coils doubtles have received from the Foscion offices a copy of Živ' Vowan's dwp No 590 of An 29aSyscuba 1906 Eudosing the muscules of lin 4a mukung hað at Sching on the subject of the Cool agreement. The minides of the 6'26a maturips au with. Einlodau 2. le (this despatch.

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4. √ take this opportunity of ackumddquig Your Lordships Secret Despatel of the 25 Scpscmber Ecuiquig a copy of a belexam from Wit Carnegic to En Edward Quy dated Auto of that imouths with regard to the first thus of these meshugs, q

ham thu houiqui tube

My dalk

Your ship's most obediend

humble verand

The Right Hande

Non.

The Earl of Equi

KA.

12

*.

Rooomer

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